Well, we do know people lost their lives both on that day and in the aftermath. There is
video evidence of many of these individuals assaulting police officers. Should those people
who are on video, some of whom have already pleaded guilty to these crimes, be pardoned?
That's a great question. Here's here's how I hope they deal with it. Look, the pardon power
is is a strange thing that we give to presidents. Why we give it to presidents, I'm
not really sure. It's more of a king or queen type of thing. I hope that they go through it
case by case and if they do give pardons to some of the January 6th most violent offenders,
let's say that they look at it and say, OK, in this particular circumstance, let's use the
sake of uh for a discussion, the jail time. Doesn't seem to meet the crime. OK, that would
be that would be grounds for a pardon. It would be people would look at the at the use of
a pardon there and go, OK, that's that's, that's an orthodox application of the
presidential pardon authority to come in and just say it never happened. Um, it was a
peaceful protest. Everybody gets off. I think that would be, that would, that would be wrong.
It happened the day absolutely happened and we have to figure out why it happened, um, what
happened, and then make sure it doesn't happen again. And if you try and sweep it under the
rug of history, I think that you're doing a disservice. I'm sure you remember the way you
felt. I was angry. I quit. You resigned over yeah, absolutely. I'm still angry about the day
and if you're if you're American, you should be. Angry about the day even if you're one of
the people who thinks it was a peaceful protest, you could look at what you've just
talked about Kaylee and say, look, but there were other people there who were not, and I'm
angry about that and I think that's, that's not unreasonable. Do you think we could have
seen a repeat of what happened 4 years ago today had Donald Trump not won? You know, I get
asked that question all the time and I tell people I am the worst person to ask that
question of because I didn't see it coming the first in the first place.