He was warm, he was incredibly vulnerable and funny and smart, and, uh, he was so much fun
to be around. We laughed a lot. We, we would always play and, and make fun of what was
happening, and I want to keep those memories intact in those. Make me smile. Really nice to
see you, Patrick. Good. I've thoroughly enjoyed what I've seen of this show. So, like
it leaves you obviously on that cliffhanger every single time, every episode, and you're
like, OK, give me the next one. Give me the next one. How would you cope living a double
life? I think it'd be exhausting. And, and, and especially for him to keep it going for so
long, the, the compartmentalization of it, you know, it's, uh, his ability to cut off
emotionally from what he does, uh, as a killer and then to come back and pretend to be.
The perfect suburban dad and and all of that. It's this very interesting dynamic to play. Was
it a mental switch in your head each time because you are playing basically two different
characters. Yeah, I mean a little bit. I mean, for me, the exciting thing was sort of to play
the killer and not the romantic lead and, and, and do something different. The stunt work and
the driving and, and all of that, working with Michael and, in, in those scenes to me, so. And
then the dementia was really quite fun. Um, how do we tell that story visually? Um, how do
you play that emotionally? How do you show that vulnerability, but at the same time have,
uh, be a stone cold killer, but yet a warm loving father, and then also have the
vulnerability of, I, oh my God, I have a character flaw. I'm, I'm, I have an illness.
How do I keep that secret? So he has multiple secrets going on. That's a lot. That's a lot
for you to deal with. Yeah, and, and it's nice because we were just talking that we literally
just finished shooting. And I hadn't had any feedback and so you don't know if people are
going to like what you're doing. Is it working , and it's nice to see that people have embraced
it and I hope they continue to watch the show because it gets better and more it gets
explained. That's what we like. I was going to come onto the stunt driving, so I was like,
they haven't got a better person, an endurance racing driver like behind the wheel. They let
you do the stunt driving, right? Did they let you do it? They, they did. We, we wanted to do
more, um, uh, it was just hard because, uh, We had run a little bit over budget for various
reasons, but we didn't have enough road. But yeah, I got to do all the driving. Oh my God, I
was gonna say like that's not a better person. It was great. I loved it. I could have shot
that all day. I, I kept going, I think we need one more take, don't we? Can we do another
setup? And, uh, the crew loved it. The DP loved it, uh, until he was in the passenger
seat and he was doing the handheld, and, uh, I was pushing the car very hard, um, and I had to
be very careful with the side walls of the tires that are the most vulnerable. Uh, and we
had the Porsche, Tican, uh, Gran Turismo, which is this sort of the station wagon sports
car, so the acceleration with the electric car was fantastic, but the problem was we had so
much weight on the front end of the car, it would induce a lot of understeer, which means
I'm getting really geeky. I'm a motorsport car . I'm I'm into my F1, OK, so you understand, and
I think most people now because of Formula One , the movie, and you know. Drive to survive is
that when you would turn into the car, I just couldn't get the grip I wanted, so you could
really see me fighting, and I wanted to go as fast as possible. And then the first time I, I
didn't know the brake zones and how far I could push it, but I, I did it in 3 or 4 takes
and didn't hurt the car at all. I was like, the only time, the only time I got in trouble
was I was driving too slow and I hit the side wall, and I just dung the, uh, the rim. And
they were looking and I was walking around the car and everybody goes, what did you hit? And I
was like, it was because I was going too slow. I wasn't paying attention. Yeah, but you're a
Porsche guy, so they'll be fine with that. The people were fine. Exactly. I was like, you're
their guy, right? You're literally like and it's a great car. It's a really good car. Oh my
God. Obviously we talked about, you know, like the dementia and stuff like the memory thing.
You yourself must have a great memory because you have to remember scripts and all of this
kind of thing. Is there anything that you are Terrible though I couldn't remember, like I was
just telling, we, we were just talking about I had these very really early interviews and
there were so many questions about like what music am I listening to right now and
everything escaped me. And I remember I was, uh, I, I was traveling, I think I was in
Portugal, and I hadn't used my ATM card for such a long time and I could not remember my,
my code, but no one remembers that. I, I, and then, you know, you have, we have so many codes.
Now for our streaming services that it's, sometimes it's hard to remember them all. So, I
have to write them all down. So, yeah. Oh, my God. And then I go into panic mode of like, am
I developing something. But I've done my screening and I, I, you know, one of the things
is now there are a lot of tests that you can take to see if you're, uh, if you have an issue.
So, I really recommend, and this goes into another thing, is really make sure you get your
physicals, understand your family history. Um, And be, you know, aware of that so that you can
start to be working on preventative steps to, to help you live a longer, healthier life. Yeah,
I always feel like that every time I'm like I walk into a room and I forget why I went in
there or what I was meant to do. I'm like, oh no, is this my memory going already. I think, I
think because we have so much going on and sometimes if you're, you're on Instagram or the
news and you're thinking and you're not present, and I think, There's so much more
stimulation that we're all dealing with constantly. It's much harder to be present and
not to be worrying about the, the future and the fear of that or the past and the regrets
and, and to be present. I think it's one of the biggest challenges we have, and we're not
really teaching people those things anymore, you know, and I think those are things that are
very important. I will say, Patrick, you are coping with everything remarkably well. You're
a much stronger person. Than I am with everything that's happened recently. So I, um,
hope that you're doing OK. It was hard to get up this morning and, and, and to hear the news,
but we tried to get Eric to come in to play the brother Michael, um, and I'd spoken to him
and I had stayed in touch with him and I had texted him last week and was staying in touch
and I felt, um, Really sad that that it was just his decline was so rapid, um,
that my heart really goes out to his children. Um, we have Eric in his beautiful state on the
show and that memory of him will always be there, and that's a beautiful thing. He was a
beautiful man. He was an intelligent man. He's wickedly funny and really a pleasure to work
with, and we've lost a very special man and, um, his children and his His loved ones have
lost a man who was no longer with them and um, he, he's here with us in spirit and he's now at
least uh in a peaceful place. And it's the ones that he's left behind that are carrying
the sadness of that. You know what, my feed was full of pictures of you and him together
this morning and my, I just had the biggest lump in my throat seeing all of that. But this
is all about, you know, memories and stuff, and I hope you have some wonderful memories
memories. And I, and I, and it was hard to, I was like, oh, do we cancel today? And I was
like, no, that's not the responsible thing to do. We have to kind of go and do this. But if
people were to spend time with Eric, they would love him even more so because, yes, he
was physically gifted and, and, and it's really ironic that he had this terrible disease
that took all that away from him. But he was warm, he was incredibly vulnerable and funny
and smart, and, uh, he was so much fun to be around. We laughed a lot. We, we would
always play and, and make fun of what was happening and, and, uh, and I. I want to keep
those memories intact and those make me smile, and I'm glad I had time with him. Oh, that's
made me smile because it's a difficult time. So it is, it is. And um I hope everyone around
him is, is doing OK. Thank you. Thank you so much, Patrick. Lovely to see you. Good to see
you as well. Thank you.